Sound like a good plan? Mandatory weight loss programs for people who are "disabled" because of weight.?
I’d like some feedback, positive or negative, on this idea. For people that are on Medicaid Disability due to their weight, should there be some mandatory diet/exercise counseling and planning.
My thoughts on the matter might be a little biased. I work in health care and see this day in and day out basis. People coming into the emergency room with all sorts of complaints, underlying cause is their weight. Then you see these same people out in public at say the grocery store and their motorized cart is full of snack cakes and fried chicken. Meanwhile all of us foot the bill. There is no incentive for these people to lose the weight, because they would then lose the benefits.
So what would everyone think of making it mandatory for people who collect disability for being overweight have mandatory dietary counseling and strict weight loss programs.
maybe i should have excluded my thoughts on the matter.
Im asking if it would be a good idea to enroll people in these programs, to help them not be disabled.
My thoughts on the matter were stated because i know im biased on the matter. I myself am overweight and i smoke. I know its the pot calling the kettle black.
hoopskirtkris
Extreme Judgment… They don’t give disability to over weight people except in severe cause of illness. Some people are sick and take steroids and gain alot of weight. I understand alot of people don’t have the ability to eat right, nor have the capability to even try since that is all they have ever known. I would think your focus would be more meaningful if you had ask.. "why so many women keep having babies getting assistance and the boyfriend/husband camping out in the home?" Not all people foot the bill some have paid in for their disability and deserve it! I would be very careful how you judge since your a health care professional being around so much negative energy I do believe everyone alive has experienced at least one misfortune. If your so concerned start a weight control class you have the license to do so reach out and help these people instead of criticize them??
September 3rd, 2010 at 8:46 AMDAR
The senate bill will up your premiums a ton if you are overweight, or smoke or don’t live like they want you to. The amendment was approved last week.
Then they cut the penalties because so many people will have a hard time being able to afford the insurance they are going to require by law be purchased. So the penalty would be lower, but now you are insured, and then….
……well…..
September 3rd, 2010 at 8:46 AM?
sure, let’s drop that category from the disability lists. ONLY if we drop every other disabled person who has become disabled through their own actions…
EXAMPLES:
People who live risky sexual lifestyles (gay, multiple partners, extra-marital affairs)
People who were in a disabling accident due to their own carelessness or actions (car, skateboard, bicycle, motorcycle, people who play sports… etc etc)
Smokers (of any substance) who can’t breathe anymore
September 3rd, 2010 at 8:46 AMredbeard
should we sterilize people who have kids and apply for benefits?
should we euthanize anyone who has ever smoked just to make sure we are not burdened with there bad decisions?
at what point will it affect you when we start to attack more and more groups?
September 3rd, 2010 at 8:46 AMbadbyrd
Why not go even further. Why does’nt the goverment put cameras in our bedrooms and fine us if we are’nt practicing safe sex with our partners?
September 3rd, 2010 at 8:46 AMWhy should the goverment pay for S.T.D.s or unwanted babies? Oh but if you do get pregnant, don’t worry. You’ll have the whole 9 months to decide if you want an abortion. Obama will make sure that right is’nt taken away!
Wiz
The more intelligent plan would be to remove "Disability because of weight" from the lexicon.
September 3rd, 2010 at 8:46 AMSunny
What about people who have weight problems not caused by poor eating habits? What about people who can’t afford fresh fruits and vegetables? Rice is cheap and so are macaroni noodles. Peanut butter for protein and what will you do with the peanut butter? Make a sandwich with bread or put it on crackers. It’s a whole lot cheaper than a head of lettuce.
How do you know that those people who are stocking up on chicken and snack cakes riding motorized carts don’t have another problem, some people have weight problems because of genetics. I read several articles this summer and it was in the news that, gee, somebody has figured out that people may have "fat genes". What about the people who have severe thyroid problems? My daughter had a beautiful figure until she had to have her thyroid removed. Antidepressants and other medications can cause weight gain. Maybe some of those snack foods is all the pleasure that a person gets out of life or the eating is a symptom of depression that may or may not be under treatment. When my nerves get bad or I go through a depressed spell, I eat like a pig and smoke like a chimney. Cut off my Medicare and disability payments and then my family and I will be in the streets, I won’t be getting my meds or seeing my psych. Who will take care of us then?
I pay for my Medicare, almost $100 a month plus prescription coverage. I’ve paid into Medicare and Social Security since I was 18 years old and got my first job. I never gained weight until I had female, thyroid problems and I went on meds for ADD and bipolar disorder. All the women on my mother’s side of the family gained a lot of weight during their childbearing years. Many on my father’s side of the family were large, big boned people.
Also I was on Premarin before I was 30. Not all women can keep their pre-pregnancy figure during and after menopause.
To be educated enough to work in the health system, you’re not very smart. Go back to school and put something in your head beside your liberal, let’s do away with anyone that we don’t like attitude.
Frankly, I’m sick of people coming down on people who smoke and eat. OK, have separate rooms in restaurants with air filtering vents. Many places do. Have smoking areas designated in parks or other areas. Don’t invade my home or tell me I can’t smoke in my own car. Don’t tell me that I have to pay $1.50 for a head of lettuce for a meal or two when I can get enough peanut butter and bread for $3.00 to last me for 5 or 6 days. Why get tough on people who want a soda once in a while? Seems like you people are forgetting all about those drunk drivers and taxing the hell out of them. My cousin was killed by a rich drunk driving kid who had an influential family. What did her 12 year old son get? Almost enough money so that he could go to college. Forget anything else. That driver got off virtually scott free while my cousin lays in her grave and her son is orphaned.
10 thumbs up rose beard. There are countries that sterilize those who have less than "normal" mentality or physical handicaps. Look at Nazi Germany.
Watch out, Big Brother will eventually come after you for something. Maybe your eyes will be the wrong color or you have a mole or birth mark.
‘nuf said.
EDIT: Programs may help some people, but many will struggle and be unsuccessful. So, the self-esteem will go down. And other than losing benefits, what are the penalties for the person who stays with the program, works hard, makes the effort with little or no results to show for it? How would you determine if that person is really working on it or not, have their home tapped with a video camera?
I’ve quit smoking over 15 times (I quit counting after that). I quit 4 or 5 times cold turkey, I’ve used hypnosis, patches 3 or 4 times, that drug they came out with a while back, those old "One Step At A Time" filters for a long time. I even quit for 5 years and never got over the desire for a cigarette. I went through hell for 5 years until I couldn’t stand it anymore (hypnosis was the most successful).
Making such a program mandatory will only alienate people and cause hardships. Having the programs available for little or no cost as an option would be O.K. Unfortunately, everytime a step is taken like that it seems to eventually become "mandatory" I should have the right to choose to wear a seat belt. In the beginning, I had that right, but now it’s gone. The Constitution of the United States says I have a right to bear arms, but many people and the government want to take that right away from me. I should be able to defend myself if I want or need to. What will happen when the government takes firearms, inluding hunting rifles? How would we defend ourselves against another Hitler, Castro or Sadam? Many believe we are closer than we think.
Frankly, I think you got of the bus in the wrong town.
The government has no right to mandate what food I do or do not eat, period.
September 3rd, 2010 at 8:46 AM